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Chris Shiflett shiflett at php.net
Mon Sep 13 02:23:35 EDT 2004


--- Christopher Hendry <chendry at gmail.com> wrote:
> Frightens me that you say that Shiflett, can't imagine web ever really
> going client side...sure, more client side logic, but we still need a
> server to make the magic.

Yeah, I didn't mean to suggest that more of the important stuff will be
moved to the client side. I just mean that I think we're going to finally
see more innovation in user interfaces. I think most of us are more
interested in the "business logic" or whatever you want to call the
important stuff, and I can't imagine that being anywhere except the server
without us moving toward some P2P model.

My brief dissection of Gmail suggests that HTTP transactions are still
taking place on a lot of those page loads that don't feel like page loads
(like when you click Inbox from another folder). They're just very tiny,
and the stuff returned isn't a Web page but rather a few bits of important
data that is incorporated into the interface using JavaScript.

I wouldn't be surprised to be completely wrong, but the things I've
observed lately that made me change my attitude toward client-side
technologies include:

1. The XUL presentation at last month's meeting.
2. My  discoveries while dissecting Gmail a bit.
3. My exploration of what makes Flickr so appealing.
4. Firefox's recent surge in popularity.
5. php|architect developing a Flash-based training solution for
cross-platform availability.

Just in case you think I'm wacky, that's at least a bit of my reasoning.
:-)

> Besides, if that happens, what will you write about next?

Hopefully the next Harry Potter, also known as XUL and the Sorcerer's
Stone. I just have to figure out this XUL stuff sometime.

Chris

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